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"And I beheld, and heard the voice of one eagle flying through the midst of heaven,
saying with a loud voice: Woe, woe, woe to the inhabitants of the earth....
[Apocalypse (Revelation) 8:13]

Saturday, October 11, 2014

"Deepening" of Doctrine or Divorce from Doctrine

Church doctrine on family can develop, papal advisor says

   Archbishop Victor Manuel Fernandez

TradCatKnight: Yes, we have heard this before from the Vatican II modernists that they are reforming 'the Church" by deepening what has already been known but this is a farce. We already know that since the Council the doctrines have changed and jumped from the Catholic Ship headed for "Modernist Island". Moreover, these modernists even admit (John Paul II) the doctrines are new yet right to religious liberty, "ecumenism", liberty of conscience, separation of church and state(Americanism) have been infallibly condemned by the Church! Those are just a FEW examples out of the hundreds of "these breaches" with the Faith. How does one say a deepening when we clearly see this is rupture! Related: http://tradcatknight.blogspot.com/2014/07/vatican-ii-reform-or-revolution.html  The modernists continue to hide behind their impotent banner of continuity. Whenever you hear the words "deepening", "gradualism" or "legitimate" coming from the Conciliar Church "cover your ears" for what is about to follow is going to be poisonous to the soul. The deliberate destruction of these progressivists will continue as we head closer to the formal unification of all religions. In summation, are we dealing with pastoral teachings that bring one closer to the Sacred Heart? Or are we being "liberally loosened" from discipline under the pretext of the modernist's "mercy" cry?

 

 Article below reported by: John Thavis

When Pope Francis called for frank and open talk at the Synod of Bishops, he was encouraging bishops to speak up “without fear that Cardinal Mueller will come after you,” one of the pope’s closest associates said today.

The humorous aside – well, I think it was humorous – came from Archbishop Victor Manuel Fernandez, rector of the Pontifical Catholic University of Argentina, who is reputedly one of the pope’s top theological advisors.


Archbishop Fernandez was addressing reporters on the synod’s third day, and he said the pope’s call for an honest exchange was necessary if the assembly wanted to be productive.
The reference to Cardinal Gerhard Mueller prompted chuckles in the press room. Mueller, head of the Vatican’s doctrinal congregation, has been among those sharply criticizing a proposal by Cardinal Walter Kasper that the synod find a way for divorced and remarried Catholics to receive Communion.
Fernandez also addressed what has become a common refrain at the synod – that the assembly had no intention of changing doctrine, but simply looking at pastoral practices.

“When it’s said that this is a ‘pastoral’ synod, it doesn’t at all mean that one cannot deepen the doctrine,” he said. “We need to develop the doctrine on the family much more. If we came here only to repeat what we’ve always said, the church wouldn't grow.”
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He pointed to the issue of slavery, which was accepted in past centuries by the church, as an example of where teaching changed “because there was a development in doctrine – and that continues to happen.” You can't say doctrine developed in the past, but no longer does, he added.

 


Fernandez said the synod needs to proceed by looking not only at the truths of its faith, which should be defended, but also at the pastoral realities, which can sometimes be messy.
As pastors, he said, bishops need to reach out and help people even when they do not fully accept church teaching – when “perfection is not possible,” as Pope Francis put it in his document Evangelii Gaudium.

Archbishop Fernandez is said to have worked closely with Pope Francis on that document, and his briefing in the press room today certainly seemed to reflect the pope’s point of view.

Father Hesse, Doctor of Theology/Canon Law 
Vatican 2 gave us a New Religion 

2 comments:

  1. A relevant part from Vatican I's Dei Filius:

    For the doctrine of faith which God hath revealed has not been proposed, like a philosophical invention, to be perfected by human ingenuity, but has been delivered as a divine deposit to the Spouse of Christ, to be faithfully kept and infallibly declared. Hence, also, that meaning of the sacred dogmas is perpetually to be retained which our holy mother the Church has once declared; nor is that meaning ever to be departed from, under the pretense or pretext of a deeper comprehension of them. Let, then, the intelligence, science, and wisdom of each and all, of individuals and of the whole Church, in all ages and all times, increase and flourish in abundance and vigor; but simply in its own proper kind, that is to say, in one and the same doctrine, one and the same sense, one and the same judgment. [Vincent. of Lerins, Common. n. 28.]

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  2. Spot on, Alan....this is nothing more than modernist dravel

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